Dialogue Chen Zhisi: Let the world know Chinese culture, Hong Kong plays an important role

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On the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the return of Hong Kong, Direct News launched a series of interviews with the "Hong Kong Celebrities Seeing the 25th Anniversary", inviting more than a dozen people from all walks of life in Hong Kong to see the development and changes of Hong Kong for 25 years from their perspectives, experience the new weather in Hong Kong, and feel the new weather in Hong Kong, and feel the new weather in Hong Kong. New opportunities and new hope.

Chen Zhisi, chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum in this issue. Chen Zhisi, a member of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Council, has been the chairman of the board of directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum Cultural Museum Co., Ltd. since 2018. He said that as a gift project to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the return of Hong Kong's return to the motherland, this world -class Chinese Culture and Art Museum was completed as scheduled, which made Hong Kong people proud and inspiring. Citizens are very hopeful to have the opportunity to see such national treasures. "

The opening ceremony of the Hong Kong Palace Museum, which was waiting for, held the opening ceremony on June 22, and officially opened to the public on July 2. More than 900 precious cultural relics from the Forbidden City of Beijing will also meet with Hong Kong citizens. As a gift to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the return of Hong Kong, the museum is also the first cooperation project of the Beijing Palace Museum outside the Mainland. Why did Beijing choose Hong Kong? Chen Zhisi believes that in the national "Fourteenth Five -Year Plan" plan, Hong Kong is positioned as a centers for cultural and art exchanges between China and foreign countries, and the Hong Kong Palace Museum can play a very important role in it.

"We have cooperated with institutions such as the Louvre in France, the British National Art Museum and Italy. In fact, they are all willing and hope to have opportunities to cooperate with us, so we can really play an important role in the exchange of Chinese and foreign culture and art. Our museum shows the Chinese culture to everyone, and also hopes to know the culture of other countries through our museum. "

He grew up in Hong Kong in Hong Kong in Hong Kong and Britain. He combined his own experience and said, "Although we have returned for 25 years, in fact, many Hong Kong people may not really know our Chinese culture." He believes that he believes that he has awareness of Chinese culture. It only comes from books, which makes him unable to experience the true touch of history as many Hong Kong citizens. Personal experience.

Chen Zhisi is very confident about the development prospects of the Hong Kong Palace Museum. He believes that in the past 25 years, the exchanges between officials and the people have expanded rapidly. The international metropolis in Hong Kong is also released. In addition to being an international financial center, Hong Kong must also do the same grade as finance in order to maintain the competitiveness of a city, because we want to gather talents from all over the world to Hong Kong. "

Here are the interviews.

Question: Now the opening response of the Hong Kong Forbidden City Cultural Museum is enthusiastic, but how to maintain heat in the long run?

Chen Zhisi, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: First of all, in the first exhibition after our opening, there were 914 national cultural relics borrowed by the Beijing Palace Museum, including 116 first -class cultural relics. In addition, we also borrowed a dozen collections from the Luofu Palace of France, and there were many collections donated by many collectors in Hong Kong. Of course, the Palace Museum is our main partner, so these more than 900 cultural relics are just displayed for us in the first stage. In the future, different other cultural relics will be lent to us. And among these 914 cultural relics, there are actually timely exhibitions. As far as I know, there are some cultural relics that are more sensitive to light, such as calligraphy and painting, they have a short time in Hong Kong. It may be only one month to several months. Exhibition period.

And in fact, after a few months, we will cooperate with other cultural relics museums in Europe, so in the next batch, you will see some European, court -style collections. In the same period, we also have more than 70 different art partners from the world. In the future, we will see different cooperation models. We also hope to see cultural collections in some Western countries or other countries in Asia in our museum. Let's enjoy it together.

So in fact, you see that we will constantly update the cultural relics in the museum. As a Hong Konger, you are not successful after you come, so I don't worry that the public will feel that it will be less attractive after a while.

Of course, in the long run, we all want to have our own collections, because we can all see many Hong Kong collectors willing to donate their collections. In the future, if there are more and more collections, we can follow Other museums in the world have a reference to each other, because they also want our collections to go to them, and their collections can come to us, so I am confident in long -term development. Our exhibition is not a one -time activity, a long -lasting, continuous replacement model.

Question: The Hong Kong Palace Museum is the first cooperation project of the Beijing Palace Museum outside the Mainland. Why do you think you choose Hong Kong first? What are the advantages and characteristics here?

Chen Zhisi, chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: Before the concept of the establishment of the Museum of the Palace Museum of the Hong Kong Palace Museum, the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government had cooperated with the Beijing Palace Museum. In the past cooperation, in fact, there are very good reflections. When you see that every national cultural relics are exhibited in Hong Kong, you are very popular. Treasures. Therefore, our citizens hope to have the opportunity to see such national treasures. In addition, the Beijing Palace Museum and the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government actually have some common communication and cooperation. Ms. Lin Zhengyue often goes to Beijing to meet the leaders, or to participate in other activities, and she has the opportunity to talk to the dean and former dean of the Palace Museum in Beijing. The entire idea is whether Hong Kong will have the opportunity to build a Palace Museum. As far as I know, they are very supportive when they hear it, because they feel that it is a good opportunity. The use of Hong Kong platforms can make many people recognize our long -standing culture. Of course, in the end, the support of the central government is also required, so it was also recognized by the central government, thinking that this is a good opportunity, which makes our place in Hong Kong more special. You can have your own museum to show our Chinese culture. In the later period, in the national "Fourteenth Five -Year Plan" plan, it is clear that Hong Kong is indeed positioned as the center of Chinese and foreign culture and art exchanges. Then the Hong Kong Palace Museum of the Palace Museum actually plays an important role.

Question: What are the measures for helping children to understand national history and cooperation with the school?

Chen Zhisi, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: In fact, whether it is during the conception stage or the entire building construction process, there are many school groups and civil organizations talk to us. Everyone has thought about it. Many plans, of course, are definitely the first thing to visit. There may be some courses. They can come to the course, because in fact, this museum is not purely as simple as the collection. The story behind, so the more important role that the Hong Kong Palace Museum will play in the future is to provide this opportunity to tell these stories.

Everyone knows that although we have returned for 25 years, in fact, many Hong Kong people may not really know our Chinese culture. I used myself as an example. Of course, I grew up in Hong Kong and Britain. Although I read Chinese history, I read it in the book. If you read books purely, it is actually very dull, so this museum in Hong Kong is here, and citizens do not need to go to Beijing to have their own feelings. He here in Hong Kong, you can know and see history through our display. , Attract everyone to understand.

There is a museum in the Museum of Culture in the Hong Kong Palace Museum. I am also very interested in showing the model of the emperor's daily life in the ancient court. In fact, I think this is very vivid. Through such an exhibition, the public see that the emperor hundreds of years ago, his life was like this. His life mode may not be far away from our modern people, so I think this makes everyone feel so strange.

Therefore, through this museum, through our cultural relics, using the display method of our curatorial team, the distance will shorten the distance, and it will not make everyone feel that when it comes to Chinese culture and Chinese history, it is too far away. I think I can reduce this distance, not just to give us young people in Hong Kong, but also hope that people all over the world can come to us to deepen their understanding of Chinese culture.

Question: What are the cooperations between the Hong Kong Palace Museum and Foreign Museum?

Chen Zhisi, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: In fact, the Hong Kong Palace Museum of Cultural Museum is now with about 70 international museums or some groups. There are some cooperation plans. Our cooperation borrows each other. In our first exhibition, you have also seen it. We have cooperated with the Louvre of France, the British National Art Museum and Italy and other institutions. Therefore, many well -known museums or groups in foreign countries, in fact, they are very willing and hope to have a chance to cooperate with us, so we can really play an important role in the exchange of Chinese and foreign cultural and artistic exchanges. We hope that this is a dialogue, not only to show everyone the Chinese culture through our museum, but also to understand the culture of other countries through our museum.

There are still the same important. I feel that when we and other countries around the world seem to have some controversy, this is normal, including geopolitics, but in fact, if everyone puts aside these things, simply from culture Looking at the perspective, the process of human progress, these cultures that have inherited hundreds of years, thousands of years, in fact, in the end, everyone is the same in many places.

Although everyone seems to see a lot of different things in the short term, everyone has a common emotion, so we actually hope that through our platform, everyone can see that in fact, human civilization, to evolve, to art, you can use art, you can use art, and to art, you can use art. Our world has pulled back together, everyone will enjoy it together. Therefore, I think, especially in a world environment, many people want to have such experience and know more. Because I think that sometimes there are so many differences in the world because everyone (to each other) is not very deep, and everyone often is because of the noise on the surface. If you look back at some long -term things, as I just said, as I said just now, For example, when I saw the life of the emperor of the Qing Dynasty, we found that he was actually under pressure. (Originally thought) had no pressure to be an emperor. Many things are common, and the willingness of the world can be common. Question: How do you think the team should use the Greater Bay Area market and combine culture and tourism to help Hong Kong integrate into the dual cycle of domestic international culture?

Chen Zhisi, chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: In fact, Hong Kong plays a very important role in the national "Fourteenth Five -Year Plan" -China and Foreign Culture and Art Exchange Center. Because in the West Kowloon Cultural Area, where we can go to the high -speed rail, within one hour, I am talking about tens of millions of people who can come to our place at any time and visit the museum or see some performance arts at any time. Visual art, so I think that when the epidemic, people in the entire Greater Bay Area can be convenient to come to Hong Kong at any time, and they can go to more than one place, there are many places.

Because I believe that the next stage of tourists, he will not want to buy cheap goods in one place. In fact To go to New York, London to buy cheap goods, everyone will think of some high -quality services, whether it is catering service, culture and art, some exhibitions, etc. Of course, you can go to eat, and there are things to buy, but the more important thing is that these choices in cultural and artistic aspects are given to him. You can watch some different exhibitions, different performances or art exhibitions.

Q: Will you open a new museum later, such as in the New Territories?

Chen Zhisi, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: The idea of ​​the entire Hong Kong Palace Museum Cultural Museum is not in the original plan of the West Kowloon Cultural District. Unlike other places, including if you go to M+Museum, our scale is almost half of it, so this has a certain limit, but I have confidence. I think there is absolutely the opportunity to expand. Of course, where is it difficult to expand? Of course, I don't think it will be outside this park, because there will be no coordinated effect. There is no reason to come here to see things, and then take a car to other places. I believe everyone wants to be convenient. You can go to this place at a close range and go to another place, so you must look back at our own park to find a place. I think there is still a chance.

The most important thing is to find resources and funds, because in the original development plan of the entire West Kowloon, there is no including the Hong Kong Palace Museum of Cultural Museum. Therefore If we need to expand in the future, we must find new funds. Although not for the time being, I am very confident that the expansion must be within our long -term development considerations.

Question: In your opinion, what is the positioning of the Hong Kong Palace Museum?

Chen Zhisi, chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: I am not an expert in Chinese art, but I also briefly asked myself. As you said, we have the Beijing Palace Museum and the Taipei Palace Museum. How can we make our Hong Kong Palace Museum of Culture Different status? Of course, the collection is very important. In fact, there are not many collections in Hong Kong for the time being. We just started to donate to us, but we are very confident and we are not bad. Recently, a couple sent us more than 900 pieces to us. Among them, those thousands of years of cultural relics were all priceless. So if there are more and more treasures, we have the ability to exchange with others and borrow each other. In addition, the Palace Museum in Beijing is very supportive, so I don't worry about the collection, but how can we distinguish between our museum and other museums?

The most important thing is our curatorial team, including Hong Kong people, mainlanders, Taiwanese, and foreigners. The way we make our curatorial is unique. Essence We have many multi -media display methods, and we also introduce many local artists to think about how to show our collections from what angle, so you must feel the difference. In addition to the curatorial model, because we are an international city, we will also show our collections from an international perspective. The most important thing is Chinese culture. This is a unique place for us.

Question: In your opinion, what do you know about this large -scale borrowing of precious cultural relics in the Palace Museum in Beijing? How can the Hong Kong Palace Cultural Museum intend to tell the Chinese story in their own way and give full play to the important functions of promoting the exchange of east and west cultural exchanges?

Chen Zhisi, chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: I did n’t know much about the Beijing Palace Museum before, but since I became the chairman of the Museum ’s board of directors, I have been to the former dean and the current dean. If you are willing to bring the collection to Hong Kong, it is not only Hong Kong, but also people from all over the world to enjoy and know, so I think this is also a great motivation. Everyone has the same cooperation. When I went to visit the Palace Museum in Beijing, they also told me clearly that I hope that Hong Kong to display these exhibits in your way is also good for them. His goal is not just to say that I want to open another museum. I believe that the Palace Museum will eventually hope that people around the world can know our Chinese culture and Chinese history. Therefore Everyone's goal is the same. Of course, in Hong Kong's status, it is better to use Hong Kong's way to communicate with Chinese cultural history with foreign countries.

Question: In your opinion, how should we closer the distance between the cultural relics of these Palace Museum and ordinary citizens?

Chen Zhisi, chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: whether it is the Hong Kong Palace Museum of Culture Museum or M+, is our purpose only to those who can appreciate (art)? If so, I think it is definitely not worth our use of so much money, and I definitely believe that this is not what the country or the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region wants to see. It is not only for those who are interested. ) People are interested. To be honest, my cognition of Chinese culture and art is not very deep. I often feel that the things I say when entering the museum are far from me, and it will scare people, so I definitely agree with you.

When the first arrangement was arranged, my curator and deputy curator said that on the one hand, we must have some high -quality collections and give some people who are very appreciated. This is important, but at the same time, we must order It popularizes popularization, so that everyone will come in, listen, and touch. I mean either to touch the collection, or what I can feel, so that he will not feel scared, and you won't feel that my cultural level is not so high, so I dare not come in to visit.

The other is that art and culture also requires education. For example, M+Museum, it is contemporary art. In fact, there may be many controversies. The angles are different and everyone's views are also very different. This is normal. Everyone has a view on something. It is difficult for you to agree with everyone. This is not what a museum should do. We are going to educate the citizens to know and respect different cultures. Of course It is not those who are illegal, illegal is illegal. I do n’t have to talk about it. I ’m talking about different opinions. It’ s absolutely OK, and there will be no controversy. Because it is about the history and culture of hundreds of years, thousands of years, but the whole process is a process of education, so you can't expect the museum to open the door, and all audiences have shot bad palms (praise). This requires a process to slowly understand the process. Essence Therefore, I think this is also an important role that the Hong Kong Palace Museum to take will.

In fact, we have a lot of groups to talk to us now and talk a lot. We also have special arrangements. For example, a small community, we have free tickets, free of charge on Wednesday, and many sponsorship tickets, now I also send it to the citizens, so I feel that I feel that it is myself. Our role is diverse. In addition to showing art and collections, we are more important to how to popularize it, and there is an educational composition in it. Examination.

Question: What do you think is the biggest change in Hong Kong's cultural undertakings compared with the return of Hong Kong 25 years ago? What are the most prominent progress and achievements in the connection with the Mainland Mainland? What are your expectations for Hong Kong in the future?

Chen Zhisi, chairman of the Board of Directors of the Hong Kong Palace Museum: I don't know the others. I said myself, and I just said it. My understanding of Chinese culture is definitely from the book. In fact, the cultural history of the year is not really felt, because we have always grown up in this place. There are not many opportunities to experience themselves and feel history. Of course, in the past twenty years in the past, there have been many more folk exchanges. Hong Kong citizens can also go to the Mainland and go to many different places to have their own experiences. It must be better than before returning.

To this day, the biggest difference is that the SAR government attaches more importance to culture. Many people used to say that Hong Kong was a cultural desert, because they always felt that culture was secondary, and the most important thing was to make money. Therefore, Hong Kong, as a commercial city, has developed well, but in terms of culture, it seems to be an auxiliary, but it is not actually.

As I said just now, such as New York and London, in fact, these two cities are financial centers, but everyone thinks of New York and London, not both financial and cultural places. , Go to the museum, etc. This is why they can continue to become a financial center, because they can attract talents around the world, and talents around the world go to a place. They are not as simple as going there. He wants to appreciate local cultural facilities, and usually It was the entire family moved to the local area, then he also depends on whether the facilities you read, the city is unsafe, and how the cultural level is. So in fact, Hong Kong is very special. We didn't seem to pay much attention to such things in the past. We do not know this kind of things by ourselves, but if you want to attract talents around the world, we must need this kind of supporting. Of course, we finally built these facilities for 20 years, which is the first step. With the hardware, there are software supporting facilities. Hong Kong also wants to cultivate our own local talents, and also welcomes overseas talents to develop in terms of culture and art. This is the effect that Hong Kong can play as a place for cultural intersections. I hope that in addition to being an international financial center, Hong Kong must also do the same grade as finance in order to maintain the competitiveness of a city, because we want to bring the talents all over the world to Hong Kong.

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