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Revitalize epic into people's hearts

"Gesar" is one of the three major epic in my country, the longest epic in the world, and the only "living" epic. It is described by the multi -ethnic rap artist living in the plateau. It has been thousands of years and is a cultural treasure of the Tibetan people's dedication to the country and the world.

For thousands of years, the Chinese civilization is a national epic country. The epic of "Gesar" is the grand narrative of the hero Gesar's sacred career in the Chinese nation family, telling the heroic story of Gesar Wang Rongma's life, suppressing the weakness, and the prestige. Gesar's story still has countless rap artists chanting and performing, advancing in the wheels of history.

The animated film "The Ten of King Gesar" is based on the deep research of "Gesar". This is a huge test for the main creative team, "like crossing the majestic mountains", because "Gesar" is not a single book written by a single writer. The ambition of film creators is to refine such a giant system into a concentrated essence.

This kind of research and adaptation of merits is equivalent to the household names and mouths that are well -known in Tibet, Qinghai, Sichuan and other places in my country. National sharing and co -rewards to let the epic of living epic enter the hearts of more people. This is the inheritance of the creativity of national culture. Director Luqi and his team, the efforts under the control of more than 20 "obsession" are not easy, can inspire more latecomers. (Liu Gonghu)

The official poster of King Gesar King.

Recently, the animated film "Gusar's Ten" adapted from the epic of "Gesar" exposed the first trailer, which is expected to be released within the year, which has fulfilled the dream of the entire production team for many years.

What is the epic of "Gesar"? Why make such an animated movie? What is the meaning behind? Reading of the Yangtze River Daily+last weekend interviewed Director Luqi, as well as the experts participating in film guidance, the head of the work of the work of the National "Gesa (Si) Er" Nobwandan.

Epic the longest, the movie focuses on the "horse racing king"

"Ten of King Gesar" is an animated film. Director Luci has been in film and television art design for many years, and has participated in or directed many well -known film and television dramas, such as "Kangxi Dynasty", "Son of Dashan", "Iron Blood Red An", "Oriental Battlefield", but he has never directed animated movies.

"This is a difficult subject." Nobwandan, an expert who participated in the guidance, said that Gesar was the longest epic in the world. "When I went abroad, I found that many people are looking forward to the popular works of Gesar epic. It has always been that Gesar has transformed the results of Gesar into film and television works, which is also a long -cherished wish of the academic community for many years."

Nobwandan, director of the working leadership group of "Gesa (Si) Er".

"Gesar" is one of the three heroic epic in my country. In 2009, it was included in the UNESCO "List of Human Intangible Cultural Heritage". Nobwan Dan described that the research results are "Yangchun Baixue", but epic is a typical "grassroots culture". How to spread popularity, which reflects the academic content and the height of art? Movies are the most intuitive.

The whole epic of "Gesar" tells the heroic story of Gesar Rongma's lifetime, strong and weak, powerful, prestigious, and finally reaching the mission to return to heaven. The film selected chapters such as "Horse Racing King".

Nobwandan felt that the entire creative team was "amazing": "They found me, I heard their stories, they have the feelings of promoting the excellent traditional culture of the Chinese nation. Covenant and courage. I think I must help this. "

He further explained that this subject is well -known, but everyone generally dare not try it easily. "Yesterday, a director contacted me and said that he wanted to make a movie of this subject. Not good or loss. "

Director Luqi.

【Interview】

"I have lived in Gesar's cultural atmosphere since I was a child"

Reading+: What are you living in the Tibetan area from an early age, what is the foundation of Gesar epic in the local people?

Nobwandan: I was born near Guide County, Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture in Hainan Province, Qinghai Province. Those who engage in non -heritage understand that after the founding of New China, the earliest text of "Gesar" was discovered in us. In terms of the protection of Gesar -African heritage rescue, this text has a milestone significance. Guide County has a small area and a small population, but the ruins of "Gesar" abound. Many places or village names are named in the name of a character in the Gusar epic or a story with them. Related, even most of them are still in use.

This place is very popular with raps. Gesar is very popular. My family has an old man, but he is not a "god" artist. He just loves rap Gesar. He has a very thick book of "Huoling War" everywhere. Wherever you go, there is a group of people surrounding him everywhere. I have lived in such a cultural atmosphere since I was a child, and naturally I loved Gesar epic.

In the late 1970s and early 1980s, a large number of Tibetan printed texts printed "Biography of Gesar" came out. I was already in high school at that time. In the spare time, everyone likes to read the story of Gesar because it is easy to understand And exciting again. Every year on the New Year of the Tibet, in the three days of the ninth day to the eleventh day, the temples in our place will be staged in Gesar's Tibetan drama. Except for my hometown, several villages in Guide County have Gesar's repertoires, but we are more distinctive and more famous. However, the source of the Tibetan opera came from Sichuan Deg. Reading+: Why can it circulate transnational?

Nobwandan: It is not the same as other epic. It is a cross -border, cross -ethnic, and cross -cultural context spread. It is not only circulating on the Qinghai -Tibet Plateau, but also on the Pamir Plateau, the Mongolian Plateau, and the Yunnan -Guizhou Plateau, and it is circulating in 14 ethnic groups such as the Mongolian, Turkish, Yugu, Dang, and Naxi people. A epic can be accepted by so many ethnic groups, which is determined by its quality. The core values ​​that it expresses is universal, such as the idea of ​​suppressing strong and weakness, hosting fairness, and justice. Another important reason is that the three major civilizations of Chinese Confucian civilization, ancient Indian Buddhist civilization, and ancient Greek civilization are called "axis heart civilization". Until now, it is still an important coordinate and value scale of all human culture. Some scholars believe that In history, the cultivation of the three major axis civilizations has been prosperous and prosperous without exception.

The blue sky and the vast grassland have bred Gesar in the hearts of the people

Reading+: What kind of soil is needed for the emergence of epic?

Nobwandan: Epic is a poetic history. Therefore, there are a large number of ghosts in the epic. All the epic in the world has such a characteristic: the protagonist must be a half -man and half -god hero.

If a nation is completely dominated by logical thinking or rational thinking, it cannot produce epic; the emergence of epic must require non -logical way of thinking. We are called "poetic thinking" or "mythical thinking". Tibetan can have Gesar and have a lot to do with the way of thinking. The natural environment of the Tibetans life determines that their thinking has "poetic" characteristics. Of course, anyone goes to the Qinghai -Tibet Plateau and sees the blue sky, the vast grasslands, the free -flying eagles and the stars. It is not because of the reveries of the real estate, and the poetic thinking has risen.

Reading+: When it comes to the traditional culture of the Chinese nation, everyone is relatively unfamiliar with Gesar; and when it comes to epic, the most associative is Homer epic, but instead of not many epic knowledge of the Chinese people, why?

Nobwandan: The biggest problem is the barrier of language, causing cultural barriers between nations. This is a big problem. Therefore, this movie is also breaking the barrier of language, breaking the ethnic boundaries, and enhancing each other's understanding and appreciation.

Epic seems to be a person's life, but behind it is the history of the vicissitudes of the group's vicissitudes of thousands of years. Just like "Gesar", it reflects different ethnic groups living in the Qinghai -Tibet Plateau. How do they live in a harsh environment, how they transition from scattered tribes and diverse families to a whole It has become a history of a great multi -ethnic country composed of 56 ethnic groups. Therefore, Gesar epic can become a cultural heritage shared by the Chinese nation.

Reading+: What is the difference between Gesar epic compared to other epic?

Nobwandan: Either Homer epic or Indian epic, including Chinese and Jiangegel in China, basically there is only a way of inheritance. However, Gesar's inheritance methods are diverse, including chanting artists, entertainers, digging artists, and intellectual artists. There is no teacher.

Gesar was born on the Qinghai -Tibet Plateau is a kind of "Jiangyuan Epic", Manas and Jiangger are "grassland epic", and Homer epic is "marine epic". Due to its natural and human environment, the structure of "Jiangyuan Epic" is more magnificent, and the thoughts reflected are more lofty. Gesar epic is the longest in the world. There are more than 300 volumes now, nearly 30 million poems. OK, more than 200 million words, is more than 200 times the Dream of Red Mansions.

Reading+: ordinary people want to know Gesar, what can I watch in addition to watching animated movies?

Nobwandan: In recent years, some literary works have been published in recent years. The "Epic Epic Volumes of the Chinese Folk Literature Department" hosted by the Chinese Federation of Literature and Arts has also been published. At the same time, seniors and scholars have a series of research books that can be read. In addition, last year, I edited a "Gesar Epic General Reading" published by China Social Science Press and just published "Gesar -from history, myth to epic". We are still doing the Gesar Chinese translation project. From the 300 Volumes of the Tibetan "Gesar King Daquan", the main 100 volumes are selected and translated into Chinese. The launch meeting was held in July last year. Essence

"They abandon abroad and leave colleges and become our good partners"

Reading+: It is said that in order to choose a painting, you have taken a lot of time in all parts of the country. Is there a story in it?

Luqi: This is an animated movie of hero epic theme, so the aesthetic style of animation is very important. It is very important to accurately find a painter in line with this style of painting. Because the painter style is inherent, it can be taught by hard education.

Through friends, I saw Tao Chong's album. I like it at first glance. The lines are very energetic, the characters are particularly vivid and vitality. I said, oh! This painter was really good, and he immediately met Tao Chong. Although it was the first time I met, I felt like an old friend reunited.

In fact, Tao Chongzheng was going to develop abroad because his wife was in Finland and he didn't want to separate the two places for a long time.

Tao Chong is a person who does not paint, and it is uncomfortable to write a day. I told him, don't leave, you will be useful, you will be useful. Gesar is the opportunity to show your talents. This is what you are destined.

He also liked the subject of Grisal and decided not to leave. He is the character -shaped designer of this film, and the main characters are designed by him. As I conceived, he fully demonstrated his talents and full of happiness during the entire creation process.

Scene design is also the key to the success or failure of the overall atmosphere of a movie. Although we have drawn some scenes, I always feel that there is a lack of "energy". Occasionally, I saw a design drawing of a pencil draft. I felt that the peaks in the painting were the feeling I wanted. It was steep and sharp, as if a soul was floating. Another point, I like the depth of painting the mountains.

I just inquire, who this person is. Someone told me that the author Wu Lijie is now the Deputy Dean of the Academy. So Mr. Meng Fanyao, the chief producer, made a special trip to the college to find him to talk about Gesar. He liked it very much, but hesitated a little, because he taught in colleges and universities, and the teaching tasks were very heavy.

After a while he took the initiative to find us, to say that he couldn't let go of Gesar. He resigned for this and came to our crew to bear the design of the main scene. He likes Gesaro years, and he likes the momentum of the Plateau Mountains in Xinjiang and Tibet, so he went to Xinjiang as soon as he graduated from college. I said that this was fate; he said that Gesar asked us to come together.

A animated film, more than 4 years before and after, can be said to be a huge systematic project, the entire team is also very huge, and the participating artists are working hard. I am grateful, especially I am very satisfied with the two very suitable partners who choose.

Reading+: Why do you care so much about "depth"?

Luqi: I have done my own experience in the design of the scene for so many years. I also have my own experience in the design of the scene. When I design the scene, I am concerned about the depth. For example, when I shoot this room, I must show that room behind, and there must be another corridor or a square behind that room. The picture with deep sense is particularly three -dimensional and rich.

Usually painting mountains are layers of layers, focusing on the ups and downs of the mountains, overlapping, and focusing on the horizontal and vertical composition of the picture. The design of film and television scenes should pay more attention to the depth of the composition. Only the depth can make the picture a three -dimensional sense, otherwise it is a plane.

The main scenes such as snow mountains, glaciers, and ganoderma stone in this movie. The scene design often uses a cliff, a trunk and other details to increase the depth. Most traditional Chinese painting is scattered perspective, and Western painting focuses on focus perspective; and this animated film has not only the large plane treatment, but also focuses on depth.

Reading+: For this film, you not only went to Tibet, but also went to Sichuan, right?

Luqi: I have been to both places. For this film, I ran many places in Tibet myself and felt a lot, so I know that the main creators must feel it.

The full -time expert guidance, even the name of the Tibetan mastiff must be considered

Reading+: Why is the subject of Gesar particularly difficult?

Luqi: First of all, the volume is huge, just a "horse racing king" alone, let a artist sing, can't sing for a few days and nights. Therefore, a 100 -minute movie has a limited capacity; which part of the story to choose and which bridges to choose is important.

There is still a problem in this, because it is too wide, and there were no text records before. Unlike Tibet's version, Tibet and Sichuan are different. Therefore, in the face of so many choices and so many sayings, we must choose a just right and recognized script. This running -in process is difficult.

As far as I know, many people want to do this subject for so many years, but we have never seen the work appear, and we don't know why? We can do it, it may be lucky.

Reading+: Is there any expert guidance in this movie?

Luqi: Since preparing the script, we have been particularly serious and invited many authoritative experts and scholars to guide us.

For example, like Mr. Yang Enhong, she was the director of the Office of the Working Leadership Group of the National "Gesa (Si) Er". She dedicated her life to Tibet and Gesar. In her latter, Teacher Nobwandan fully affirmed our film and gave guidance.

There are many experts and scholars in various professional aspects, such as in terms of character modeling, we have invited the styling of film and television drama creation for many years to guide Teacher Yang. She first designed a group of character modeling concept maps from the perspective of film and television. This has guided the concept of our later animated characters. There is also Professor Wang Wei of Peking University, Professor Fang Xiaoxi, who are all art consultants of this film. They accompanied us to Tibet to collect the style. The two are now in their 60s. In the place where Tibet is so high, we suck oxygen every day and follow us to search for materials and find materials. Fang Xiaoxi, he was a childhood playmate. He was a cadre aid in Tibet. He worked in Tibet for many years and was familiar with the situation there. There is also Professor Liu Kui from Southwest University, who has taught painting at Southwest University. She has participated in the creation and research activities of various projects of Gesar many times. She has always given us guidance and collaboration on creative creation.

Reading+: I heard that you have opened several seminars, and there are countless modifications of the script. What are the general modifications?

Luqi: Generally speaking, the theme, direction, and structure have no major changes, but the details are constantly modified and adjusted. For example, the Tibetan mastiff in the movie, we originally named it Dorji. A seminar was held when I was in Tibet, and the former vice president of Tibetan University, John Russia, Master Renhong, mentioned a detail. He said that there was a movie called "Tibetan Mastiff Dorji", and we suggested that we change the name to "Nuo Song". In Tibetan, "pine" means protection, "Nuo" is property, describing the Tibetan mastiff like the patron saint.

There is also such a plot in the movie. After Gesar was expelled, he walked all the way to the source of the Yellow River in Qinghai. He found that it was destroyed by the red -eyed demons, almost no grass. Gesar led the locals to fight the mouse, rebuilt beautiful homes, and planted unique fern. This plot was added under the guidance of Mr. Yang Enhong. I think this is very good.

In many places in the movie, experts will point out that this is the case from beginning to end. This movie is completed under the guidance of the government, experts, and scholars.

The style of this animated movie is pioneering, "I also look forward to the live -action version of" King Gesar "" "

Reading+: It is said that you were moved by King Gesar more than thirty years ago?

Luqi: Yes, it was in the Deg Printing Institute in Degs, Sichuan. I saw King Gesar at first glance. It was a statue of King Gesar printed on the board. The lines were delicate and smooth. I was moved by its aesthetic style, and I asked, who is he? They told me that King Gesar. This is the first time I have heard this name.

Later, I stayed in Derge for five or six days, and went to the Indian Economic Anti -Stato every day to see a lot of Thangka. Many of Thangka painted King Gesar. Since then, I learned that there was such a great hero, and this subject began to enter my heart. For many years, I have never forgotten.

Reading+: Why didn't you do it immediately?

Luqi: I didn't expect to be an animated movie at that time. If I want to do it, I can only make a live -action movie. But I don't think it is over. Not to mention 35 years ago, even if it is now, if I want to shoot a live -action version of King Gesar, I still dare not shoot. Now in my mind, I don't know what kind of person should be invited to play King Gesar.

Reading+: Chinese animation likes to dig out the artistic combination of art from deep cultural heritage in China. Is this animated film learn from "Thangka"? Animated movie with nutrients?

Luqi: We are definitely pioneering in the style of this animated film, which is undoubted. Thangka is a unique symbol of the snowy plateau culture, and it is a unique painting language style. Whether it is technical or painting raw materials, it is very unique. So I often say that we are just digging the native culture on the native land. It is transplanted into a new form of expression and transplanted into the new field of the movie.

Reading+: Why did no one use it in animation movies before?

Luqi: Thangka itself is particularly complicated and colorful. If it wants to use it with animated movies, it is technically difficult. Animated movies are generally simple, the shape is simple, the pattern and accessories must be simple, not too much, it is particularly difficult to do more. Especially two -dimensional cartoons. For example, as soon as the animated characters move, the accessories on the pattern on the clothes will follow the rhythm, so it is usually simplified.

But for Thangka, if there are no complicated lines and no colorful colors, there is no feeling. And it is not in line with Tibetan characteristics. The customs of the Tibetans are to wear headwear accessories. Especially in ancient times, the accessories of Tibetans and nobles must be indispensable.

Such complications have brought great difficulties to production. In the past, the animation technology could not be achieved, and it could not be done at all. We are working very hard now, and we have barely achieved this level. In some places, I am not satisfied. It is not because the creativity cannot reach, but because the technology cannot be reached. I believe that as the digital computing power is strengthened and energy is increased, it must be stronger than now.

Reading+: It is said that it is a trilogy. What is the second and third eyebrows in the back?

Luqi: King Gesar is very great in my mind. From my personal wishes, I definitely hope that I can do my best and presented in the form of animation. We have already laid some foreshadowing in the first part, but can we do it in the back, depending on the effect of the first part. If everyone likes to recognize, then I will have confidence to continue and strive to do better in the future. Essence I also hope that more and more artists, especially excellent young people, can invest in the creation of this subject, and bloom. The talent reserves of Chinese animation are sufficient. I believe they will advance the animation career and make traditional culture carry forward.

Reading+: Chinese epic and Malanas of the Corgzi, and the Mongolian Jiangle, can you continue to "mine" from ethnic culture in the future?

Luqi: Let's go with me. I don't know what I will do in the future. Everything is possible. At the same time, I am also filming a film and television drama. Recently, there is a drama to be broadcast, which describes the historical drama of the Tujia in the Five -generation and Ten Kingdoms period called "Blood League Millennium". At that time, I hope everyone can like it.

(Changjiang Daily reporter Qin Mengting)

【Edit: Zhang Jing】

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