Zhang Chaoyang dialogue Yu Minhong: Talking about the universe, anxiety, entrepreneurship, and life

Cover reporter Wu Yujia

Recently, Zhang Chaoyang, the founder of Sohu, chairman and CEO of the board of directors, and Yu Minhong, chairman of New Oriental Education Technology Group, started a dialogue on topics such as values, natural sciences, entrepreneurship, anxiety and other young people.

Talk about values: people are going to toss and make a "century -old shop" together

The first time in the 1990s, Zhang Chaoyang and Yu Minhong experienced similar entrepreneurship and change. Their past reflected the history and life outlook of a generation of entrepreneurs. After the wise men met.

"People are going to do things." Some time ago, Zhang Chaoyang shouted this sentence at the camera after running the second ring of Beijing in 5 and a half hours. In this conversation, he explained in detail: "Everyone is looking for the recognition of this world to you. This is a human nature, so people must toss to let others recognize that they should not be called blind toss or 嘚 嘚 嘚 嘚 嘚Sei. People should be tossing alive. Be sure to leave traces. It must be meaningful, creative, and contribute to others. Small people must toss, young people must toss, and people must do meaningful things. "

Regarding some netizens' issues that "work 5, 6 years, I feel that I can't move, I want to retire." Yu Minhong said with a smile, "I am still at the age of 60 and still roll." Do old. " In his opinion, when he is particularly serious and seriously treats a job, he will do it carefully. If you do it, you will have a sense of accomplishment and fun. Finally, you will find that this job is quite interesting.

Yu Minhong also felt the same. He took himself as an example. At first, he had done education and training. The original goal was to go abroad after one or two years. He insisted that he found the meaning of helping others to realize his dreams.

"You don't like some jobs because you don't understand the connotation and future potential of the job. You must work hard. There are too many people in this world because of the deepening of that job and finally like it. Finally, I insist on doing it. And there are a lot of achievements. If this is the case, you insist on trying out what this job brings you, and I think it is worth it. "Yu Minhong said that by the age of 60 Starting from scratch, it can continue to make new and break through its limitations. Zhang Chaoyang also called on Yu Minhong to do the "century -old shop" together.

Talking about anxiety: fear and anxiety are the common and anxiety of human beings to do more important things

"We are only one step away from depression and anxiety." When talking about the more universal anxiety phenomenon of the current society, Zhang Chaoyang believes that everyone stays at half -hill slope and rolls down with a little accident. Life is to walk against the water. Just stuck in one foot and one foot, don't slide down. Zhang Chaoyang explained that humans have evolved from animals, seeking survival and development because of fear and anxiety, so fear and anxiety are human nature.

How to solve anxiety? Zhang Chaoyang believes that solving anxiety itself is to zoom in anxiety. So anxiety cannot be resolved, anxiety is tolerance. When you are anxious and uncomfortable, you have to endure uncomfortable, knowing that you still have more important things in life to do, and you do that thing to stay away from anxiety.

"If it is more easy to understand with a liberal arts student, it is to divert attention." Yu Minhong added that people cannot be immersed in anxiety and fear. The best way is to do what you think of this thing to you A little useful.

In this regard, Zhang Chaoyang suggested: "Establish your life values ​​as soon as possible, and live and work in accordance with your values ​​firmly, actively, and actively. No matter what emotions come, you must continue to do this. This is important. Psychological health is very important. "He compared the values ​​to a rope. In the quagmire, your values ​​are like a rope and can drag you up. After two million years of evolution of a human brain, its super computing capabilities and super association capabilities have caused us to manage it by values, otherwise we will fall into infinite abyss.

Talking about natural science: There must be an alien civilization in the universe, but when you come to the earth, you may become blind

When experiencing the flying tray, Zhang Chaoyang scored the physical principle of why the flying tray could "fly". "The pressure and relative speed of the fluid mechanics are inversely proportional. The relative speed on the flying tray is particularly large, so the pressure is particularly small. Because there is a groove, the air flow speed is slow, so the pressure is formed to form an upward force." Zhang Chaoyang explained.

Recently, the Weber telescope, which took the clearest cosmic photos, continued to attract attention. Zhang Chaoyang used the blackboard on the scene to introduce why the telescope was placed on the Laglang day point, and derived the accurate distance between Lagram and the earth in detail. Essence "The solar system has L4 and L5 points in the solar system. It is called the universe parking lot. These two universe parking lots have become the guards of the solar system.

In addition, they also discussed whether alien civilization exists. Yu Minhong believes that the universe is so vast and boundless. "The earth may be accidental. It happens to be the distance and circulation track of the sun, but I believe this is not the only accident. Lonely. "Zhang Chaoyang added:" The Galaxy has hundreds of billions of stars, and there are countless galaxies similar to the galaxy in the universe. "

As for what happened to the alien coming to the earth, Zhang Chaoyang analyzed through physical principles, assuming that the surface temperature of another star was not 5800 degrees, it was 2000 degrees, and its spectral peak position was different from the sun. If the planets around it have aliens, then these aliens will inevitably evolve into light near the peak of the star spectrum, so these aliens can see in infrared bands that 700nm is visible for them. When they reached the earth, they became almost blind, and they could not see the white light of the sun. Talking about learning methods: make full use of your excitement points for fragmented learning

For two people who have kept lifelong learning habits, are there any learning skills to learn from? Their answer is "fragmented learning". Zhang Chaoyang made a vivid metaphor: a person moved to a new place. When this person was shopping in a new place, he did not have to systematically stroll every store from beginning to end. Go to the right shop to go shopping. Over time, most of the shops in this block will be recognized by this person, which is the result of fragmented learning.

Zhang Chaoyang emphasized that we must make full use of their excitement to learn, and don't be afraid of unknown things. Following your interest, it doesn't matter if you don't understand now. Just understand the part of that understanding. The composition of the brain is fragmented. Yu Minhong added, "Like reading novels to encounter an idiom or words that do not know, you jump over."

Talk about entrepreneurship: I have to experience once in my life but require a certain experience and timing

Is it a good time to start a business? Should young people go to start a business? Zhang Chaoyang and Yu Minhong both believed that entrepreneurship needed a certain experience and timing. They used themselves as an example. One was to start a business five years after MIT post -doctoral work, and the other was that after graduating from Peking University, he worked as a teacher for six years and a half.

As for how to start a business? Zhang Chaoyang believes that if you want to finance and set up a company, the young people who have just graduated have not experienced enough experience, it is easy to fail, and it is easy to lose debt. But because of the Internet, if you are an individual, you can make money.

And Yu Minhong said that "a lifetime must go through entrepreneurship". In his opinion, entrepreneurship is what a person wants to do, and a short life is very precious. It's a super regret. Although the nine deaths of entrepreneurship, they should not discuss heroes in success or defeat. Yu Minhong took Xiang Yu as an example. "When Xiang Yu Wujiang was self -proclaimed, he must have no regrets. He worked hard and fulfilled his death. Life depends on whether you have paid your efforts to go all out. "

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